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“I’m not trying to escape s**t”: Brennan Lee Mulligan on why D&D isn’t escapism to him

September 21, 2025


I imagine plenty of us would agree that they play D&D for escapism, but not Brennan Lee Mulligan. The legendary Dimension 20 Dungeon Master would like to stare into the void, and he’s OK if the void stares back.

“I’m not trying to escape shit,” Mulligan says when we talk about Exandria Unlimited: Divergence and D&D. “I keep hearing about escapism. I’m not plunging into the heart of Fantasia to the seat of the throne of the Childlike Empress to do anything other than find the secret wisdom I can take back from realms supernal to tell a story about a better world that we imagined together. So for my money, stories of myth and legend and fantasy are where I go to find joy and play and meaning… I remember being a kid and playing house with my younger sister, and she would be like, we’re getting blueberries for the pancakes. And I was like, what’s that outside? Something rumbling in the woods? And she’d be, ‘NO IT’S NOT!’ So I’ve always had this issue. I need there to be something rumbling in the woods.”



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